Thanks ti Saw Thoo for his explaination. KNU formed the Peace Initiative Committee to conduct and carry out peace process. I agree with ti Saw Thoo that the vice chairman of the peace committee should not be only servining as postman or the go-between.
I know that the KWO represent in the current KNU's Central Committee and so do with KYO. As the result the former Secretary of KWO, Zipporah Sain, was qualified to be elected in the EC of KNU.
The KWO can air its feeling. But, the KNU should be professional to deal with this idea. As far as I learn of KNU's constitution it does not write down anything about constituencies are able to able to propose for discharging, dismissing or expel people with one or a small number of feeling of people. (If they have, sorry).
I learned about the last ceasefire led by President Bo Mya. After getting a lot of opposition, he discharged General Tamla Baw (current Chairman) from GOC. The opposition team tried to mobilize some people like CBOs to be with him while president B M remained in accordance with the letter he worte to EC/SC you translated. I would feel sad again if KWO is used to do this again in this war and other KCBOs.
In our Karen revolution, there is four ways you can get rid out a person. You will do 4 things by labeling a person as (1) Spies or (2) womanizing or (3) corrupt (4) earning lives in Thailand. Given the current fact and the current leaders, I think almost all of top 5, EC can be categorised in this frame. As organisation, KWO is including in this frame. I see the press conference of KNU delegates with the government on Skynet. the KNU delegates answered in the framework of the KNU. But on the other hand when I listened to "thawthikho" post about David Thakabaw interview on 12 night on a radio program, his answers demonstrate that he felt upset because the team went for Nay Pyi Daw which was not in the plan. He sound it like the team defiance him or, he does not have power over the team. I think it is very dangerous to do this way. The media is not for him to share his immature political emotion. But he did that, or maybe he is excited to be interviewed. KNU has website, facebook to do things. He does not need to talk. Lastly, thank you for your comment.
The peace team who went to negotiate with Thein Sein representative, Aren't they fit in the four categories that you mentioned? Oh Please don't be ignorance. I don't see KWO write proposal to KNU, rather share their concerns. If KNU does not have any rules to discipline the members that does not follow policy, then, it is their business. KWO does not have power over KNU. I also do not see KWO anywhere in the ground mobalize people or mobilize other KCBO for this matter either. Only KNU leaders, can democratically decide on the issue. No one else. Not KWO. Don't worry.
I think the KNU peace committee are paid by the Burmese delegate, so they event can't wait for another week to sign. Every body know Mutu say poe is not a postman, If he value the Karen martyrs lives, He should think every Connors very carefully before he signed.I personally think they don't think about civilians who live in the jungle where burmese troops still terrorize them. they think only their families in Thailand. Look at the Families of Mutu saypoe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Rogger and Johny. I don't want to comment the KNU peace committees each person situation on the web.
don't attack each other. No good. Look at each mirror. Most of leaders work on the border except some leaders inside districts. See this, KNU Chairman, Vice Chairman and all EC work on the border. Including many cbo -- kcbos too. no talk more. kwo not agree weakness. the case is kwo problem. different with others, u know it. Is it true? they want to make problems to others when meet and work with other. Never agree and never support who if they see is not fit to them. support who is suitable and close to them. as an organization, should not look at to this and that and here and there leader. Everyone should look at each own mirror and do good for karen people. we should respect all leaders. If the one who in high position and look not good to others, problem can occur to anyone. nobody is good and if feel no good, want to say something bad to others.
want to answer an anonymous. kwo does not share concerns, read exactly, they are looking for rule and ask for discipline that want to discharge or dismiss or expel all who were the delegates in meeting and talks with Burmese leaders there in paan.
I Know that you feel upset with the set of team. You feel upset with General Mutu Say Poe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Roger, and Jony. I will go through it case by case about the current peace team. You forgot about Padoh Aung Maung Aye. General Mutu: He has no land in Thailand. He is migrant persons among his kids. David Taw: His daughter Lahbweh Taw was working hard. She got a Thai ID her mom sold honey. It was 5,000 baht in Thailand in 1984. She brought her family, including her dad. Her dad survive alone. Kweh Htoo: I didn't know about them. But they are living without document at Mae Tang school. Anyhow it was 10 years more ago. At the school, the kid work and pay for themselves. Roger Khin: According to the family tree, he is the uncle of my wife. He lives with his family. He own nothing. Jonny: He does not have any kid to buy land in Thailand. He has pei pei poe now we try to contact him back. Many times you will see him as person with money.
Thanks. And can you becloser?. If move closer a bit. I will eat you up because you are so cute to understand the situation. I will eat up everyting, both your smelly penis and all.
Hi SAW PHA WA, you say {I don't want to comment the KNU peace committees each person situation on the web}. But, I want to know why you mentioned some leaders; Mutu saypoe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Rogger and Johny? not only the enemy uses divide and conquer, but you make division between leaders, know it. it is clear that who you support and don't agree with who. don't do like this. you divide our leaders or some leaders want who is black and who white should be clear that's why they hire you to do it? I want to know who makes the root causes for arguments like this?
What means "a tet ba ma lo". I don't understand. you make trouble and you preach? The blood of Karen is thick. We talk, gossip, but we do not want people like you to be in between. We do not have Burmese typest on our keyboard because we don't want just doint preaching and praying in Burmese. And most of all we do not know Burmese well. But don't tease us with Burmese. Please stay out.
Lawplah Minn i will tell you what about P'doh Ar tho, do you know about him, also johny i think you may know more than me about their situation, what about muthu say poe you will tell me, he doesn't own the land but his sister do you know how much own. you can lie other people but you can't lie me. who can control muthu say poe and johny. they may not listen other people suggestion even they did wrong. you may know more than me. where they get money for their kids id to become thai citizen. ar tho, johny, muthu, david taw, and roger. we do not need to worry about their group even they do not own land or poverty but most of their relative become rich because using their names.
KNU Be careful for that KWO. They or she can be your and Karen enemy.Don't let anyone suck Karen blook then eleminate right away. KWO is KNU.A negitive KWO member cannot be you or our friend or Karen.
I did not know very well about what is the KNU Peace Committee responsibility for this trip, but I though something need to improve their relationship to KNU's EC.
If you don't know, please be quiet. Don't talk more. Everyone will understand you. Do you want to make something more confuse between the leaders if your know more about that. Now karen people are very bad to make problem each other. Nobody wants to find the best solution, and only are talking problem. No solution and nothing would happen.
Of course, I agree. bad ... bad ... bad... all Karen. They just make trouble, no solution. kwo is bad, KNU chairman is on bed, vice chair say and est, their colleagues are smell and bells, and others are wet. all karen people are worse.
You should try to find out where was the message came from belong to the KWO.You want to solve the problem but you do not put your head in their shoe as you said. Your voice is look very strong. KNU is our father or mother, and you and me are their children because of we are Karen.
Who come to give problem here is Thido moo(nick name). He is just gay dick sucker.. He doesn't dare to tell his name.. he is the one who fight KWO and a problem maker and dick sucker. He come to give all comment here to go to suck Burmese dick like he suck.
Thanks ti Saw Thoo for his explaination. KNU formed the Peace Initiative Committee to conduct and carry out peace process. I agree with ti Saw Thoo that the vice chairman of the peace committee should not be only servining as postman or the go-between.
ReplyDeleteI know that the KWO represent in the current KNU's Central Committee and so do with KYO. As the result the former Secretary of KWO, Zipporah Sain, was qualified to be elected in the EC of KNU.
The KWO can air its feeling. But, the KNU should be professional to deal with this idea. As far as I learn of KNU's constitution it does not write down anything about constituencies are able to able to propose for discharging, dismissing or expel people with one or a small number of feeling of people. (If they have, sorry).
I learned about the last ceasefire led by President Bo Mya. After getting a lot of opposition, he discharged General Tamla Baw (current Chairman) from GOC. The opposition team tried to mobilize some people like CBOs to be with him while president B M remained in accordance with the letter he worte to EC/SC you translated. I would feel sad again if KWO is used to do this again in this war and other KCBOs.
In our Karen revolution, there is four ways you can get rid out a person. You will do 4 things by labeling a person as (1) Spies or (2) womanizing or (3) corrupt (4) earning lives in Thailand. Given the current fact and the current leaders, I think almost all of top 5, EC can be categorised in this frame.
As organisation, KWO is including in this frame.
I see the press conference of KNU delegates with the government on Skynet. the KNU delegates answered in the framework of the KNU.
But on the other hand when I listened to "thawthikho" post about David Thakabaw interview on 12 night on a radio program, his answers demonstrate that he felt upset because the team went for Nay Pyi Daw which was not in the plan. He sound it like the team defiance him or, he does not have power over the team. I think it is very dangerous to do this way. The media is not for him to share his immature political emotion. But he did that, or maybe he is excited to be interviewed. KNU has website, facebook to do things. He does not need to talk.
Lastly, thank you for your comment.
အခုမွဘဲ ရွင္းသြားတယ္၊ နားလည္သြားတယ္၊ မဟုတ္ရင္ အဂၤလိပ္ေရး တတ္သူေတြက အဂၤလိပ္လိုသက္သက္ဘဲရးေတာ့ နားလည္းမလည္။ ဖတ္လည္းမဖတ္တတ္ဘူးကြ။ ဒီေလာက္ဆို လိုေလာက္ျပီးလို့ထင္တယ္၊ မ်ားမ်ားမေရးေတာ့ပါနဲ့ကြာ။ တေယာက္အေျကာင္းတေယာက္သိျကျပီး မဟုတ္လား။ ဘယ္သူက အရည္အခ်င္းရွိတယ္။ ဘယ္သူက ငတံုးျဖစ္ တယ္ဆိုတာ နားလည္သေဘာေပါက္ေတာ့။ ကိုယ့္ကိုကိုယ္ အထင္မျကီးျ ကေတာ့နဲ့။ အထင္ျကီးရင္ မွားသြားလိမ့္မယ္လို့ထင္ပါတယ္။ အမ်ားဆက္ေ၀ဖန္ေျပာဆိုစရာေတြ ပိုမိုမ်ားလာလိမ့္မယ္။ မင္းတို့ရဲ့အဖြဲ့အစည္းကို သတိထားေတာ့ကြာ။
ReplyDeleteThe peace team who went to negotiate with Thein Sein representative, Aren't they fit in the four categories that you mentioned?
ReplyDeleteOh Please don't be ignorance. I don't see KWO write proposal to KNU, rather share their concerns. If KNU does not have any rules to discipline the members that does not follow policy, then, it is their business. KWO does not have power over KNU. I also do not see KWO anywhere in the ground mobalize people or mobilize other KCBO for this matter either. Only KNU leaders, can democratically decide on the issue. No one else. Not KWO. Don't worry.
I think the KNU peace committee are paid by the Burmese delegate, so they event can't wait for another week to sign. Every body know Mutu say poe is not a postman, If he value the Karen martyrs lives, He should think every Connors very carefully before he signed.I personally think they don't think about civilians who live in the jungle where burmese troops still terrorize them. they think only their families in Thailand. Look at the Families of Mutu saypoe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Rogger and Johny. I don't want to comment the KNU peace committees each person situation on the web.
ReplyDeletedon't attack each other. No good. Look at each mirror. Most of leaders work on the border except some leaders inside districts. See this, KNU Chairman, Vice Chairman and all EC work on the border. Including many cbo -- kcbos too. no talk more. kwo not agree weakness. the case is kwo problem. different with others, u know it. Is it true? they want to make problems to others when meet and work with other. Never agree and never support who if they see is not fit to them. support who is suitable and close to them. as an organization, should not look at to this and that and here and there leader. Everyone should look at each own mirror and do good for karen people. we should respect all leaders. If the one who in high position and look not good to others, problem can occur to anyone. nobody is good and if feel no good, want to say something bad to others.
ReplyDeleteေတာ္ပါေပေတာ့။ နားလည္ျကေတာ့မယ္။ မွန္မွန္ကန္ကန္ လုပ္ျက၊ ျပီးေတာ့မိမိလူမ်ိဳးအတြက္အက်ိဳးရွိမယ့္အရာ ရွာေဖြ လုပ္ျကပါ။ နားလည္ျကပါလားေဟ့။ လူပုဂိုလ္မတိုက္ခိုက္ပါနဲ့. မင္းတို့ ဒီေလာက္ဘဲ ညံ့ဖ်င္းျကလား။ မင္းတို့တဦးကိုတစ္ဦး တိုက္ခိုက္ေျပာဆိုျကရင္ ဘယ္လိုမွ ညီညြတ္ႏိုင္မွာမဟုတ္ဘူ။ ေနာက္တခါ ကရင္စည္းလံုးညီညၽြတ္ေရး စည္းေ၀း ပြဲကိုမတက္ျကေတာ့နဲ့ေနာ္၊ ေတာ္ျပီ၊ ကိုယ့္အိမ္ကိုယ္ျပန္ျကေတာ့ေလေနာ္၊ အေကာင္းဆံုးဘဲေလ။
ReplyDeletewant to answer an anonymous. kwo does not share concerns, read exactly, they are looking for rule and ask for discipline that want to discharge or dismiss or expel all who were the delegates in meeting and talks with Burmese leaders there in paan.
ReplyDeleteI Know that you feel upset with the set of team. You feel upset with General Mutu Say Poe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Roger, and Jony. I will go through it case by case about the current peace team. You forgot about Padoh Aung Maung Aye.
ReplyDeleteGeneral Mutu: He has no land in Thailand. He is migrant persons among his kids.
David Taw: His daughter Lahbweh Taw was working hard. She got a Thai ID her mom sold honey. It was 5,000 baht in Thailand in 1984. She brought her family, including her dad. Her dad survive alone.
Kweh Htoo: I didn't know about them. But they are living without document at Mae Tang school. Anyhow it was 10 years more ago. At the school, the kid work and pay for themselves.
Roger Khin: According to the family tree, he is the uncle of my wife. He lives with his family. He own nothing.
Jonny: He does not have any kid to buy land in Thailand. He has pei pei poe now we try to contact him back. Many times you will see him as person with money.
အထက္ ဗမာလိုေရးတဲ့စာက ရွင္းေနျပီးဘဲ။ ဘာထပ္ရွူပ္စရာလိုေသးလဲ။ မင္းတို့ကလဲကြာ အရမ္းဆိုးတာဘဲ။ ဆင္ဆင္ျခင္ျခင္လုပ္ျကစမ္းပါ။ မင္းတို့ေခါင္းေဆာင္တစ္ဦးတေယာက္ေယာက္ကိုျကည့္လို့မရဘူးဆိုရင္ အကုန္လံုးထုတ္ပစ္ ဒါမွ ပိုရွင္းသြားမယ္။ ဘာမွဆက္မလုပ္ေတာ့နဲ့။ ဒီလိုအျပန္အလွန္ ေျပာဆို အပစ္ျမင္ျကတာကနဲ့ ျဖစ္ပံုက မိမိတစ္ဦးထဲဘဲ အလုပ္လုပ္ခ်င္သလိုလိုျဖစ္ေနျပန္ေရာ။
ReplyDeleteThanks. And can you becloser?. If move closer a bit. I will eat you up because you are so cute to understand the situation. I will eat up everyting, both your smelly penis and all.
ReplyDeleteHi SAW PHA WA, you say {I don't want to comment the KNU peace committees each person situation on the web}. But, I want to know why you mentioned some leaders; Mutu saypoe, David Taw, Kwe Htoo, Rogger and Johny? not only the enemy uses divide and conquer, but you make division between leaders, know it. it is clear that who you support and don't agree with who. don't do like this. you divide our leaders or some leaders want who is black and who white should be clear that's why they hire you to do it? I want to know who makes the root causes for arguments like this?
ReplyDeleteWhat means "a tet ba ma lo". I don't understand. you make trouble and you preach? The blood of Karen is thick. We talk, gossip, but we do not want people like you to be in between. We do not have Burmese typest on our keyboard because we don't want just doint preaching and praying in Burmese. And most of all we do not know Burmese well. But don't tease us with Burmese. Please stay out.
ReplyDeleteLawplah Minn i will tell you what about P'doh Ar tho, do you know about him, also johny i think you may know more than me about their situation, what about muthu say poe you will tell me, he doesn't own the land but his sister do you know how much own. you can lie other people but you can't lie me. who can control muthu say poe and johny. they may not listen other people suggestion even they did wrong. you may know more than me. where they get money for their kids id to become thai citizen. ar tho, johny, muthu, david taw, and roger. we do not need to worry about their group even they do not own land or poverty but most of their relative become rich because using their names.
ReplyDeleteOn the top who wrote alot of comment is Look like a Gay... Ha Ha....
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ReplyDeleteBe careful for that KWO. They or she can be your and Karen enemy.Don't let anyone suck Karen blook then eleminate right away. KWO is KNU.A negitive KWO member cannot be you or our friend or Karen.
I did not know very well about what is the KNU Peace Committee responsibility for this trip, but I though something need to improve their relationship to KNU's EC.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't know, please be quiet. Don't talk more. Everyone will understand you. Do you want to make something more confuse between the leaders if your know more about that. Now karen people are very bad to make problem each other. Nobody wants to find the best solution, and only are talking problem. No solution and nothing would happen.
ReplyDeleteOf course, I agree. bad ... bad ... bad... all Karen. They just make trouble, no solution. kwo is bad, KNU chairman is on bed, vice chair say and est, their colleagues are smell and bells, and others are wet. all karen people are worse.
ReplyDeleteYou should try to find out where was the message came from belong to the KWO.You want to solve the problem but you do not put your head in their shoe as you said. Your voice is look very strong. KNU is our father or mother, and you and me are their children because of we are Karen.
ReplyDeleteWho come to give problem here is Thido moo(nick name). He is just gay dick sucker.. He doesn't dare to tell his name.. he is the one who fight KWO and a problem maker and dick sucker. He come to give all comment here to go to suck Burmese dick like he suck.
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